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I am shortly going to collect my 'new' bike, a Pan European ST1100 ex-Met Police.

Anyone else here got / had one of these?

Any information on what to look for or change as a matter of course?

Is the original Honda wiring the same on these with the Police loom removed?

What would be needed to convert back to dual seat apart from the obvious erm, dual seat?

Bet it doesn't come with a tool-kit......bet the Honda one requires a second mortgage....

So come on you guys / gals any info appreciated.

Nice bike, but I couldn't reach the ground (at all) whilst sitting on one

one of the guys at our Branch has an ex police pan. Its a great bike and very reliable in his instance. Excellent on ride out's as folk think he is a copper and give way to us!

Superb bike and should have been well maintained.

There are very few weak spots on the ST1100.
Keep the tyre pressures at 36/42 as you will notice the handling when they are a few pounds low.
Check the swinging arm as they can rot. I've hammerited and undersealed mine.
The brake calipers have a tendency to get very dirty and 'sluggish'. I strip mine down (no need to bleed, just push out the pistons, clean, grease and push back in) at least once a year.
There's a 14mm bolt holding the back of the rear caliper/swinging arm that needs to be kept copperg greased otherwise it can be a bugger to get out - a ratchet spanner also helps.

The biggest weak spot tends to be the rider underestimating the weight
Low speed manouvering will catch you out sooner or later - let it go down and step off, you'll hurt yourself if you try to keep it upright!
All Pan riders have done it

The original wiring loom is unchanged, all they do is add an extra bit for the whistles and bells.
Don't know about single seat conversion.
A tool kit with spanner set, allen keys and screw drivers should be all you need.

Enjoy

All Pan riders have done it

Is this an 1100 problem or does it effect 1300 riders too.

I really don't want to bacome a Pan StopnDrop Club member. 1 lifetime membership in the Deauville SnD is quite enough that you very much

I purchased a 2002 Pan a couple of weeks ago and am so far very impressed with it, however, I have to confess that I am struggling to get it off the centre stand. Putting it up is easy but getting it off seems remarkably hard. Can anyone tell me if there is a special tehnique for this or am I just being a biff?

Thanks to those who have contributed so far....

Interesting about the on/off stand thing.... I shall let you know how I get on, never had a problem with anything else yet but.....

@AlanD - Oh dear tempting fate there Alan......

The only time(s) I dropped my bike was my old CX500.... fully faired and luggaged up with Krauser panniers, bag on rack, tank bag..... stopped at the services, may have been Sandbach south bound, lovely summery day, pulled into space with slight up-slope, put left foot down, straight into patch of engine oil..... gracefully, slowly, slid sideways stepped off and lowered the bike to the ground.

Could not lift it myself, some kind driver came over and helped.

Other time was marshalling cycle race, went out to top of T at junction to stop traffic, pulled up in area covered in gravel.... same scenario as above without the luggage, took a bow to the assembled crowd and marshalls and picked the bike up and put it on the sidestand....

Fortunately nothing since....... we shall see how the Pan goes eh!

Most embarrassing off for me was when marking a junction on a ride-out.
Pulled up too close to the kerb, hit some gravel and the front just sliddddddddddddd away

Just rock the bike a few times to get it off the centre stand - you must be sitting on the bike, otherwise there is the danger that it'll fall away from you

All this talk about off ,s you pan riders are lucky Mr Honda thought about that and built in these nice big beefy rubbing --strakes so in a low speed off the bike stays at 45degrees easier to pick up ! Just in case anyone does,nt know the correct way to pick up a heavy bike is to put you bum against the tank and use your leg muscles to lift or you,ll knacker your back !! Of course after an off you have the strength of ten men due to the adreniline burn and an overwhelming desire to exit the area. Like a previous thread dont ask me how I know !!!! TOM

I got some advice when i first started biking and still use it today, when you take the bike off the full stand always have the side stand down and if you feel its going the other way just pull towards you and it will go onto the side stand.. has worked for me a couple of times.....

Picking up a heavy bike
http://www.msgroup.org/Tip.aspx?Num=075

Thanks for the advice. I have tried the suggestions and found that rocking it off the stand whilst sitting on the bike is the safest. I was talking to a bike cop the other day and he suggested that I rock it off using the left handlebar and pillion grip. I tried it on a perfectly flat piece of ground and was lucky I'd put the side stand down!!

Works every time the old side stand trick.....

Until the first time it lands on your foot........

This will seem an unpopular statement but, when I was instructing, ahem... some years back.... the Scottish Training Officer, one Neville Stone, said that if we wanted to be instructors you basically had to be able to get your bike on and off the main stand.... if you couldn't then you either changed bikes or didn't instruct.....

It is the one thing that I have never had a problem with.

However, I will see how I get on with the Pan when I eventually get it.

It is all about balance and position with the careful use of whatever body weight you have.
I would never recommend putting the side stand down due to the distinct possibility of it landing on your foot..... with a Pan, that would REALLY hurt.

I would strongly NOT recommend using the side stand when taking the bike off the main stand.
The only time you may want to use it for safety is if your bike has, for whatever reason, fallen over to the offside. The side stand is then used to prevent the bike going all the way over when picked up.